The problem with new proposed
Wilderness - No
Management. No new
Trails No existing trail repair.
danger is made worse. Thousands of acres each year are consumed by
wildfires in wilderness areas. Within the wilderness law is the
"Let it Burn" rule prohibiting interference to extinguish them. They
must be left to burn out naturally. This is absurdity in itself. This
huge Quinault Ridge
area that is up for re designation, borders
state Hwy 101on the west and the Colonel Bob Wilderness area on
side. The dividing road, an important access link, will be
removed. This new wilderness has cell
towers (with an access road) to the top.
This is a public
summer recreation area with 3 connected communities. It is simply
UN-suitable for wilderness. It
will actually make the remaining
areas more congested more restricted. Fire danger is a constant threat!
the environmentalists intended goals.
Or is it? Unsuitable
The Colonel Bob Trail-
popular Wilderness trail closed for 4 years. Unable to facilitate
since the storm. First regulations and then protest from the
environmentalists. Where are the jobs promised to us? Why does the USFS
now rely on volunteers? These seldom seen jobs were to be abundant for
locally lost employment after the last two wilderness grabs. Did
we ever see those jobs materialize? NO. Will we see them this time ?
Trees on Hwy 101-
(This area has just been a removed
proposed wilderness zone) We actually
had to fight
to have these removed. They wanted to close
the road with gates at either end during storms and and force everyone
to use a much longer alternate route along
gravel road into the Quinault Indian Nation. Unfit for timely
ambulance travel during emergency situations or anyone else.
2/10/2011 "To promote healthy and vibrant communities"
Do you see a contradiction here? Maybe
they mean the costly sidewalk/path from
a small roadside campground at Falls Creek to the doorsteps
owned Lake Quinault
A partner of the park, a PPP. Public Private Partnerships have
become quite common with our Federal Government in their attempt to
gain more property and power. A Cartel. Care to join?
The problem with creating more
It is big enough already!
(922,000 ++ acres)
They can't or won't manage
what they have now (ONP $350 million maintenance backlog (as of 2011)
and climbing as the clock ticks down into deterioration.
The national backlog is in the neighborhood of $11 Billion! (as of
Once again climbing.
Private and public lands are state
resources dedicated for the
enjoyment and benefit of ALL the citizens. (State lands produced $225
million in 2010). Even when you calculate it this way.
x 4 years = $900 million!
x 4years =
$900 million more (inflation
x 4years = Now
worth over a billion
-Extending boundaries further, first
labeled as park preserves. A willing-seller?
perfect example of a well managed working forest and recreation area in
harmony. Essential school trust land. Future timber value would surely
$900 million quickly. Mineral resources are also found here.
the Hoh, and Lake Ozette.)The
loss of these productive lands would disrupt the sustainable harvest
cycles that have taken the last 30 yrs to develop, since the
decision. Will this make logging a non-viable occupation here on the
coast? WE GROW TREES!
More mismanagement issues, destroyed and improper trail construction
burned down shelters. A proverbial Smoking Gun of criticisms! Environmental
damage by ONP
Guaranteed By Treaty.
We will need to address this more but
it is sufficient
that this detail is a whole other can of worms, and resolving it is
going to up the cost buy huge amounts in the courts; Lawyers,
studies seem to go on endlessly. Wild and Scenic Rivers allows a
consensual grab of Reservation. The Quinault Tribe has now
partnered up with the U.S.Federal government and United Nations under
the guise of "Saving the Salmon". The Olympic
National Park has been one of the major contributing causes of the
decline in the Salmon population and their spawning grounds on the
Quinault river. Over 30 years of bad decision making. Norm Dicks
has held his seat for 36 dusty years. What does this tell us?
$350 million dollars worth of ONP maintenance backlog along with
projects such as the 12 years of on going and unsuccessful work at
Finley Creek. This work was a contributing cause to what has
been estimated as a $40 million dollar project in hopes of
restoring the river and it's lost salmon habitat.
Are The Campgrounds?
-Promised since the spotted owl decision? and jobs? Visitors to the
Park have been disappointed year after year, with road and trail
closures. Where did the funds go Congressman Norm Dicks?
The Big Cedar
- Just off north shore road, was
2 months. short trail to the
worlds largest cedar
-Former North Shore campground on Lake Quinault, now day-use only.
falling limbs from immense cedars and douglas firs.
important north entrance road to the railhead closed this year (2011).
Graves Creek Rd.
-Gateway to the Enchanted Valley
now closed (2011). No admittance.
Where is Pyrites Creek
now?... as well as... Rustler Creek
Trail, Promised Creek
Trail, Litchy Creek Trail, Tschletshy
Creek Trail, Howe Creek Trail and Finley Peak Trail?
But first, remember that:
This Land Is Not In Danger!
The problem with Wild and Scenic-
The "ACT" authorizes
additional lands: 1/4 mile on each side of the river. Also more
on use and access will result.
Huge buffer zones will be put in place.
here. It is very important to understand our objections.
scam essay Wild and Scenic
get started and
examine the crucial details of the law and its judicial review.
Our Rivers Are Already
Wild Scenic And Protected
There's a bigger problem if you live
here in Quinault
know "first hand" what a horrible mistake this will
be. The Park has been busy buying properties and demolishing
north shore for years.
See The Northshore Documents. (New
South Shore of the Quinault River ONP has deliberately caused the
destroy a wonderful wetlands/habitat
area; and because it was on private property, failed to save it!
Wild Olympics performer, Al the Con-Carter
watched it all happen while serving as County Commissioner and did
it! How hypocritical is that? His
name will be forever linked to Environmental
Destruction in the Quinault Valley
What became of Al Con Carter after being voted OUT of his
county commission seat? Al's been hired by the Wild
environmental party-brats and will certainly cash in if he can pull off
yet another land scam. Al has
invested in real estate these days (he often boasts about owning).
venture is a LIQUOR STORE
knows; courtesy of Ms. Horn and her research into the
impact of unemployment and education providing a link between poverty
and poverty classified schools, that is currently impacting the entire
The Scam wishes to point out to
shrewd-Al that there is a
link between poverty and alcoholism.
school continues to lose students. Our "backyard mountain tops are a
denied being able to clean it up.
could burn us out! The Wild and
Scenic Act can be used
to buy our precious homeland and even force us to sell through
condemnation. It has already
happened here in 1938. New Buffer zones are already falling into
implement this proposal at the state level by this same elected cast of
characters! At the county level more of the same with new follow
up plans that encroach upon the private property rights we are
guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. (shoreline mapping, park stewardship plan)
"NEW" Partnership deal. Toll roads and infrastructure in your
are all part of this plan.
The Scam calls this Fascism.
Quinault Residents And Their History
Will Be Removed Next
If The Wild
Olympics Act Becomes Law
ONP alters the natural watershed
benefit on the north side of the Quinault River to the detriment
the south side. This
is what has
essay Documents of proof
of illegal tampering that
changed the course of the Quinault
for information concerning current on
going 12 year project. Response. WE have discovered them over
extending their usage permit, so that much of the work was done on
permits. What happens if you do that?
Our story. No-one but the park
puts a D9 Cat in the creek bed,
changes the river.
Keith Olson, President of
the Olympic Peninsula Natural Resources
Coalition (OPNRC) comments on "Wild
campaign and the
illegal Finley Creek alteration.
Go to OPNRC Facebook Page and Press the Like Button.
NEW 4-26-2012 Olympic Peninsula Natural
Resources Coalition; Article by President Keith Olson appearing
in the Daily World on the destruction of critical wetlands in the Quinault
Valley by Olympic National Park. This extensive damage to private
property by violating their OWN LAWS has been documented.
Upper Quinault River Tribal Habitat
Conference - Slideshow. Very
informative, but prejudicial? Ends at the loss of the Daniels' home.
Are we being led to infer that home/property owners are responsible? In
actuality all that damage is the result of the lack of or
mis-management by the Olympic National Park.
From the NW Indian Fisheries
Commission. Note: last line
of report, "if
Last year no work was done. Our most-despised former county
commissioner, Al Carter vetoed the plan. This years plan is also
away. Plans were proposed, limited funds were
Coming Soon UPDATE
QUINAULT RIVER LOG JAM PROJECT
Current cost to the
Taxpayer over $4 million to date on the Quinault River Recovery
project necessary to repair the damage to wildlife and salmon habitat
due to mis-management by ONP and WDFW.
Desolation Row by Bob
There also is a problem if you live in
did our land go?
The places we go now will be
Unemployment continues to worsen and schools deteriorate. All because a
come out here for a couple days, think they have seen it all and
want more? Read more:
Money and Schools
or the rest of Grays Harbor County
One of the area signs that wild olympic supporters
stole and tossed into the river
- "Wild Olympics" Enviro's purposely
plans to keep their
short walking trails outside of
wilderness designations, for the benefit of just 1 kind of user,
closures exclude all others. Fair or selfish? Many river bars that
provide excellent recreation and family camping may no longer be used
with "Wild and Scenic" river designations. Their is absolutely
nothing in this plan for senior citizens. Sunday drives through
the back country won't be possible. The loop trails around
Quinault are not wheelchair accessible.
Forest Provides More Than Jobs!
area all enjoy visiting frequently. Road closures have already
off vast acreage for the protection of wildlife. This is another very
healthy and productive forest, with rivers and creeks that do not need
more protecting. Keep
road in from Hwy101 by the Clearwater School has been cut-short and
for several years from washout. The
campground closed. West
Boundary Rd. is the only south access
into the entire upper Queets river region (the north access will all
bought for park). The "Wild Olympics" result is that this premier
river with it's huge watershed will be inaccessible and unseen by all
very few. The "Wild Olympics" salesman have promoted the
designations for park preserve,
reserve or various other combinations with slick lingo and a list of a
thousand qualifications. The truth remains that all this land may
eventually be incorporated 100% park at any time. They are settling for
Wilderness and future Wilderness designations now, which is even more
restrictive than park.
Damage by ONP
to the Queets River. reported
and documented by Cliff
where will visitors
will all be funneled into
the same place, with no place to go!
Campground space is very limited when open, rooms get sold out (summer
You are offered a short gravel packed nature trail where one can dream
of being in a primeval wilderness whilst viewing a hillside decimated
with blown down rotting timber. You may even succeed in deceiving
yourself that this is old-growth timber! Then you will leave your
refuse, buy gas and
drive on to the next corporate
BTW, Will the next overpriced
corporate offering be located at
Junction? Will Aramark
Corp./Partner of the Parks also
site? They already own
Quinault, then came
Kalaloch, Soleduck, Lake Crescent Lodge and
Ridge. An Aramark Corp/Park monopoly?
Who will benefit the
most from Wilderness encroaching upon us?
Who and What Will They be Advertising?
see the Wilderness" ....."You won't even have to leave
your car, because we've brought the Wilderness
to you". "Our loop trails have all been excluded from these
designations".... "You will be able to comfortably walk a short 1
trail into the Olympic National Rainforest".
few workers are
and don't qualify for costly health insurance or unemployment
instituted an order with threat of dismissal of employees who
discuss this controversial issue with inquiring guests on "Wild
Olympics" though they claim they
take pride in customer service.... "We are Partners of the Park" they
The Wild Olympics Scam and Land Rights
Coalitions peninsula wide urge you to
along with ALL other business's that have
against rural Americans for profiteering
purposes of their own.
conservation trusts engaging in collaborative speculation or worse?
NGO's or Non-Government Agencies, receive
large grants of our tax dollars for environmental purposes one of which
is to buy up land for eventual federal ownership. By
11 miles of Clearwater Riverfront, the Nature Conservancy (an NGO)
no intention of keeping
this land (6.98 million, 3,088 acres). The
Clearwater River; also designated for "Wild and Scenic", will allow the
taxpayers to Re-purchase
these additional lands. It would
so close to the National Park as it joins their proposed "Queets
Corridor" addition, that it could be added this second way! Same
thing farther north at Lake Ozette.
Where do they get all that money? Who
they pay, where it goes and more.
$8 billion in
Purchasing land in Quinault? Just say no
Our Government dished them out millions in grants to be used for land
acquisition and pet projects this
year. Tax money from our pockets. The conservancy has their hands
out everywhere. They are a part of big government. Another PPP.
The Natures Conservancy, recently purchased land on the Quinault River.
The Quinault Tribe has just joined the ringers and has recently agreed
on a PPP partnership with the Federal Government and UN nation of
Japan Mitzubishi to save the salmon and for other purposes promised to
the tribe with our tax money.
FYI - Sept
2012 - The U.S.Forest Service just issued a $250,000 grant (our tax
dollars) to help the Quinault Tribal Nations take care of the tribes
health, education and welfare programs. Fawn Sharp president of
the Quinault Nation, dominates the
front page of the Nugguam tribal paper boasting about her partnerships with the
same government that is leading us into fascism. Fawn Sharp continues to move the Tribal
Nations away from their original culture to conform to the ways of the new world order, which may
eventually take their reservations too.
Where is our Forest Service money and jobs?
Forest Service has no money to operate on but seems to be able to
spit out $250,000 to the Tribe? The tribe is a separate Nation. If the
Tribe prefers to remain it's own nation, perhaps they can earn their
own way as well.
These partnerships of course are
setting the stage for the Agenda 21 sweep (well underway) and Obama's
plan for federal
confiscation of our resource lands. By Partnering with the UN the
tribe also qualifys for funds under the Indigenous Peoples Act by UN
of the Clearwater parcel
Why acquire this? The land is not
threatened from development, there is
no pollution. They can plant a few trees but claims of saving salmon
won't be justified. This is already a superb habitat and premier
river. What happens to salmon in the ocean? If Japans nuclear
"accident" doesn't get them then China, Russia or the rest of the
worlds fishing fleet will. American
fishing vessels are becoming extinct due to stifling regulations and
high costs of licenses, fees, insurance etc. to stay afloat.
Where are the
salmon in our rivers? They are scalped by foreign boats in the
ocean before they return!
Clearwater Residents And History Will
Be Removed. Their
annual pioneer celebrations on the
will not be allowed. This celebration has been a tradition for over 100
Eudies story: From the book Rain Forest by
We have been permitted to publish this
wonderful account about the
"other time" back in '38 when the pioneers were run off
homesteads to make the Park and given what was a "pittance for
property" according to her daughter Phyliss Miller, lifetime
resident of Amanda Park.
Really Want All The Land
Wild Olympics" supporters to also
and DISPLAY Your Own UniqueYards Signs.
Samples and ideas
Dam Remove - Suit Filed By 4
Environmental Groups over Salmon
Recovery. A few members of these groups are the same ones that helped
the "Wild Olympics" for Dicks and Murray.
One of many this year. Why should the
NP buy land from the Cascade
Land Conservancy? Thats not right. They bought it for conservation
Then let them pay to manage it!
National Parks Traveler
This describes the La Push land swap.
785 acres for the tribes safety (we were all for that part BUT).
The 4100 acres was not tribal land. It doest
work that way. So much for so little? A very strange set of accounting
procedures by Maria Cantwell and the ONP. Do you think they are happy about giving up
beach? Guaranteed on down the line they will regret allowing government
The people around Lake Crescent aren't
too happy. SB3222
These homeowners are getting the same squeeze put on them. Why
this particular 4100
acres land grab? Cantwell/Dicks propose to help the Tribe, but
why must this be at their expense? We must Vote Cantwell OUT. She has
continually voted against rural america. She doesn't feel we should be
able to own land and reside here on the peninsula. Unfortunately we are
stuck with her extremism another 4 years. Please stay
the policies she will be backing in 2013. She has voted down every
constitutional issue we have faced. Is she on the peoples
side? We don't think so. Just another millionaire bucking for
Bay And another land swap around
Quilcene. It's all like a big
checkerboard, or is it a sleight
of hand "pea in the shell" game?
Move Here is a map, related to UN
This is where we are headed. They are moving Fast to implement
it. You will
WANT to see this map.
Click on the Population Move
A general overview of UN Agenda
Reasons why some might not
like the UN Agenda 21 implementationThe Cascade Land
Is behind this next one. Announcing
their Olympic Agenda!
A pdf file of related interest. If it
says "agenda," We dont like it!
Olympic Park Associates and UN Agenda
Agenda 21- Out to conquer the
Nation. More examples
Obamas - Agenda 21 Alert
21 Rio+20 United Nations Conference Wikipedia links on "GLOBAL GOVERNANCE" and the
UN Sustainable Development plan.
Wildlands Plan http://www.takingliberty.us/TLHome.html
Overview of why we are losing
our lands. The"Wildlands Project"
sweeping the country. This is one important link from Sue Forde and
Forks in Jefferson County:
County Reacts to UN Agenda21 and
asks their commissioners to oppose
Harbor/Pacific County Farm Bureau Introduces Policies To WA.State Farm
Bureau To Oppose Agenda 21 & Wild Olympics - Both Pass !!
Policy Opposing Any More Fed. Land Accusations Before Maintenance
Backlogs On Existing Lands Were Met, Was Also Submitted By GH/PCFB -
Passed ! Watch these Bills
farmers block federal drones and Agenda 21
Awareness has begun to spread concerning the UN Agenda 21 takeover of
the American soil. Step by step our current Government
administration under Obamas "green rule" have diligently
been pushing towards implementing UN policies on a Local, State, and
Federal level. Adding our federal lands to all UN labeled
National Heritage sites, plus the special UN Biosphere
sites; (the Olympic National Park now being both) allows the UN to
control on these properties. A partnership that sucks up
of our tax dollars annually (22%) to support the "good of all global
in the name of the environment. Alex Newman wrote: "To understand the scope of such an
agenda, consider that the UN considers carbon dioxide - a gas exhaled
by human beings and required by plants - to be a pollutant in need of regulation".
Seriously folks CONTROL and TAX. It was once a
joke during the Clinton administration, that someday they would
probably try to tax everyone for air space. IT'S HERE and the UN
has everything to say about it.
GOP Rejects UN Agenda 21
In our Classrooms - Shared by Pearl Rains Hewett
from Natural News Hijacked natural system - that is being
weaponized in the war against us, the natural-born humans, the rightful
heirs of creation.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT - a peak at whats really
behind the unconstitutional implementations of the (UN structured)
Growth Management Act that has been in the making since the Clinton
first agreed to sell us down the river to foreign dictating reigns of
Pearl Rains Hewett Clallam County ONP inholder has
outlined sources to reference that may interest you to do further
KEEP our resource lands
under State control and management. SAY NO to WILD OLYMPICS.
Reject the millions of acres to be added for more spotted owl
protection. Contact your Congressman and Senator NOW. The
bill is stalled in
the House for review. Contact the head chair of the House of Natural
Resources, contact Your State Legislators and urge them to vote NO.
Let them know that our tax dollars have deeper and more immediate
needs within our State and Country. Remind them that we are in an
economic crisis and added wilderness "feel good" policies with a
"federal stamp"is unnecessary. Let them know that the spotted owl
recovery was a fares the first time and repeating past wrongs
will not create a right. Any job killing policy that provides no
benefit for the health, welfare and well being for the people, can take
a back seat until the country can
afford to thrive once again and AFTER lost jobs are replaced.
groups and organizations
Olympics Sign the Petition.
Rights - We encourage you visit
CAPR 13 and make a
donation of any size to this hard
working volunteer staff of legal workers and researchers that
strive to protect property rights and bringing awareness to the people.
of flaws and failures in proposed legislation. CAPR13 covers a
wide range of issues created by overreaching government regulations at
a local, state and federal level. CAPR works for YOU! Check it out.
www.landrights.org Working to stop land
grabs and to protect private property rights and freedom.
The APC Freedom
Messenger This is a news site reporting Agenda 21 issues.
Republican Party against Wild Olympics ClickHere
against the Wild Olympics Plan........
usual for the scam.
from the G.H. Chamber of commerce ..............
Very well said! If you would like to
share this....... just copy/paste
from the Port Angeles Chamber of Commerce
"This act might do more harm than
Excellent article on this National
problem from Dave Skinner... and
more! Plus: Quinault is in it!
Freedom Over Tyranny Ron Paul
Bill Pickell printed
in The Daily World 2/03/2012
; Article by President Keith Olson appearing
in the Daily
World on the destruction of critical wetlands
in the Quinault
Valley by Olympic National Park. This extensive damage to private
property by violating their OWN LAWS has been documented.
and then some from Karl
Spees, Pres. CAPR
De Vaul of Elma from Daily World
Letter From Jim
Bower printed in the Daily
Angeles Business Association
supports no net-loss of forest
Dutton - on Norm Dicks Resignation/Retirement- Seattle
Letter From Randy
Keith Olson on Al Carters "Fact or Fiction" Article which appeared in the Daily World
Letter From- Pearl Rains Hewett - ONP Conspiracy Exposed
Submitted By pearl Rains Hewett - TO All WA STATE SHORELINE private property owners.
(a NON elected agency) plays GOD over U.S. Land and Water.
Letter from Clallam County Pearl Rains Hewett Click Here
and DVD's of interest - A look into whats behind
some of todays scams.
Call any Congressman at (202) 224-3121
It's easier to Call and
your message will get through IMMEDIATELY
Make the Move NOW! Faxing is even better. They recieve a printed copy
Call any Senator at (202) 225-3121
Your Call Will Make a Difference.
(202) 255-3121 to leave
a message for any Congressman
(202) 225-3121to leave
a message for any Senator
can do it for
Hoquium Panel Tech Goes Under? Is
Roy Knott so Smott after all?
This avid Wild Olympics supporter proves his business acumen is
about as reliable as his stance for more Wilderness and Wild &
Scenic; as being of such great benefit to the local population. Gee
Roy, What went wrong? Got too big for your Panels? or did you run out
March 8, 2012 KXRO Radio http://kxro.wordpress.com/2012/03/
Daily World Article http://www.thedailyworld.com/sections/news/local/paneltech-files-bankruptcy.html
Dont Be Fooled!
Peninsula supporters of
agenda goals are few, but they always
manage to put together a press release and get it published when they
want. They already occupy positions in our local
governments. It is only our lack of involvement that is
allowing it! We MUST stop funding for these projects, identify the
perps' and REPLACE them.
Land-Use/Restrictions Laws coming to your neighborhood too? Most
likely so. Indeed they are sticking their foot inside our doors
at every turn. Step
help! Volunteer your talents
and use your ideas.
This organization is all the rest of us who will be left out if
this act passes. The opposition has been plotting in secret for several
years. Pew has
huge amounts of money and highly paid professionals.
They are buying lots of advertising and have produced a slick
con-job. The Media follows them around like little puppies. The
Aberdeen Daily World cannot print an accurate account of these
events. Is this Act a front-runner of the Agenda 21? The
more research you do the more obvious it becomes.
Most Grays Harbor organizations are outright opposed
to any part of the Wild Olympics plan including county commissioner
Herb Welch, Port
Commissions, City Councils, Mayors, the Chamber
pages offer another look at the issues
Olympics" wild claims
or fax. It has never been easier with this handy list of
links! Our apologies please, if not all links operate.
Congressional Reps is a
bit of a chore, out of your own district. We have allies in
our state such as Doc
Hastings and it is important that they hear from each one of us.
by Brooke Dorhofer
We Also Face Another Breed Of Wolves:
Environmental Extremist That Want It ALL
Washington D.C. sent Pew Environmental Group Scouts, out to disrupt and
stalk our century old rural communities for federal and likely private
have brought with them havoc and harassment, to our neighborhoods and
into our lives. Below is an example of the types of aggression the
Quinault Valley has had to endure by these infiltrating greenies
out to save it all and eventually rip us from our roots to turn it into
their Disneyland for urbanite use.
TRESPASS - VANDALISM
STOLEN PRIVATE PROPERTY DUMPED
AND POLLUTING THE RIVER !!!!!
Wild Olympics Campaigners -
The Real Destroyers and Polluters of The Environment
Though Wild Olympics meddling
we are an aggressive group of citizens, here is proof positive that
words of truth are unbearable to these followers, within their empire
of misconceptions and deceit. These great environmental protectors have
an odd way of respecting our land and rivers here in our beautiful
valley. Perhaps these are the types of things they do in their
own neighborhoods, but we don't welcome it here amongst our peaceful
rural family homes.
"private properties" on the South Shore of Quinault
once again invaded by intruders that did not agree with our recent
billboards. We do not welcome this kind of aggression into our
community. Several other acts of vandalism from
these "green" opponents
also occurred in our neighborhoods; that they have come to
Thanks to scam agent Doug for
the heroic rescue in removing our
billboards from the river.
It's not surprising that
Dicks, Murray and Cantwell have sided with these criminal aggressors.
Birds of a feather do indeed flock together.
Teens Campaign For
wonderful to know that their are still young people in the world that
have not fallen for the "Big Government Game". It's nice to know that
there are still young people out there with an "unprogramed sense"of
what a free nation stands for. This is a powerful short Video of young
people,to young to vote, speaking out for freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCaWYvpVZg
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